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 Post subject: Museum Warehouse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:40 pm 
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The National Museum of Naval Aviation is ever expanding and increasing it's collection of artifacts. However--the collection part is a whole bunch quicker than the restoration. Additionally, the displays are rotated, to allow visitors to see as much as possible. So--the museum has a large warehouse, down on the other end of the base. Some of the artifacts in storage have been previously been displayed--others are waiting thier turn at restoration, or for suitable display areas to be made available. A few months back--on a run to find some hardware for the JD, I brought along my camera and shot a few pix of some of the more interesting odds and ends laying around down there.


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A Japanese Rex floatplane, with a Wildcat from Lake Michigan behind it

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An Arado 196 Float plane--formerly located at NAS Willow Grove's airpark

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More engines, artifacts


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A Goodyear Inflato-plane. The first aircraft aquired by the museum--back in the late '60's. It's quite fragile, being made of rubberized fabric--and nearly 50 years old. It is occasionally (and carefully) inflated, using a shop vac for special visitors.

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A Lockheed TO-1 used by the navy in the late '40's, to transition pilots into jets. Behind it is an NC-5 jet starting unit, 4wd and powered by a Ford 351 V-8. I used to use them back wheen I worked on Cougars.

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 Post subject: ERCO Ball Turret restoration
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The turret will eventuall be installed on the PB4Y Privateer.

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Hope you like the pictures--I'll take more in the future if you'd like to see more.

If any of you ever visit the museum--please contact me ahead of time--so I can take you around some of the things the general public misses.

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great pics Rob....more please..... :D :D :D

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Great shots Rob! That T0-1 is basically the Navy version of the F-80 right? Looks like some B-17/B-24 gun turrets in front if it. Interesting. Oh, and I want to come play in that warehouse. That place looks flipping sweet! :o


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Those are Martin turrets--probably removed from either PBM's P5M's or P4M's. Don't know what the plans are for them--if there are any--been there for a long time. A lot of the stuff is collected just because it's availble--usually from gov't surplus. Museum's use this kind of thing as trading material for needed items.

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Good to know! Thanks Rob. The museum here seems to have a surplus of Link Trainers. One old volunteer has been working son some for 2 years now. He's got 3 done, and I believe he's working on another.


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After Hurricane Ivan, in 2004, a lot of the older buildings on base were damaged and slated for removal. A lot of treasures from the past came to light of day, including a complete Link Trainer, includiing all the control boxes. When it was powered up--it was in perfect working order. It now resides in the WW2 / prewar area of the museum. Lots of other goodies were found buried and forgotten by generations of supply types. Most went to DRMO, but the museum got first pick of the goodies.

Another building, in the oldest part of the station, which was originally a stable, ws found to have a hidden cellar beneath it, and a stockpile of civil war era munitions was discovered. Probably hidden there by the federal forces before the station was overun by the Conferate troops and their retreat to Ft Pickens, which was held throughout the war by federal troops. The materials were removed by the Eglin AFB EOD team and disposed. My wife used to work in that building, at one time.

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Lots of history there Rob. I love it!


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Rob, do ya know exactly what kind o' munitions thay were?? (for muskets, cannons, ect.)

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Twas a mixed bag: Black powder (very unstable)various sizes of pistol and rifle/musket ball, several sizes of cannonballs, percussion caps--don't know the total amounts, but there were significant quantities. The explosives were destroyed and the University of West Florida's archaeology dept sorted through the rest--some went to the Univrsity, some to the Gulf Island's National Seashore--FT's Barrancas, Pickens, Morgan, etc for display.

Live ordinance (unexploded shells) and cannonballs from that era still occasionally turns up on the base: there was a pretty big artillery duel betseen the two confederate, and one union fort surrounding Pensacola Bay. It ended with a shopt from Ft Pickens hitting Ft McRaes' magazine, destruying the structure. Shortly thereafter, the confederate forces abandoned Pensacola to the union forces (1862).

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question answered, thanks Rob!

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Definately an interesting history down there. Thanks Rob!


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